12ozmouse
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Glue?
Jun 9, 2010 19:36:27 GMT -5
Post by 12ozmouse on Jun 9, 2010 19:36:27 GMT -5
Here is one that seems to have slipped by, WTF kind of glue to use?
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Glue?
Jun 10, 2010 0:06:55 GMT -5
Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 10, 2010 0:06:55 GMT -5
flockconcepts.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=74&page=1NYATEX adhesives should get you on track with glue. I would fill it with a small amount of either the Van Dyke epoxy or another thicker long pot life epoxy. The end result is similar to the filled epoxy offered by a UK company DCA. The fill bites into the flock for hold and the Nyatex epoxy grabs the head and holds the fill. either epoxy can work along, but you want some flex and grab.
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Glue?
Jun 15, 2010 11:26:48 GMT -5
Post by sparklebudgie on Jun 15, 2010 11:26:48 GMT -5
I have only used the DCA two part epoxy glue, which in fairness is fine. What other types of glue are used for flocking with?
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Jun 15, 2010 11:28:37 GMT -5
Post by sparklebudgie on Jun 15, 2010 11:28:37 GMT -5
Ok Sorry just found the link above ;D
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Glue?
Jul 29, 2010 13:35:07 GMT -5
Post by traud on Jul 29, 2010 13:35:07 GMT -5
Ray, how did the van dykes epoxy work? & To date what is the best adhesive to use? I'm looking to up grade my adhesive to something a little better, I need something that is really gonna hold the hair in place. I would like a good adhesive for me and for the folks I do heads for, you know what I'm saying?
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Glue?
Aug 3, 2010 7:39:08 GMT -5
Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Aug 3, 2010 7:39:08 GMT -5
Van Dykes worked well as a filler or if you added some Toluene or Mek to the final mixture to make it bit into the head just enough to hold tight. It's very stiff, but thinned you can get some good flex. Be careful with epoxy and thinners because they do tend to penetrate skin easy so put on some nytril gloves and work in a well vented area. I always work in front of an exhaust fan so I rarely even smell anything at all. I tend to stick with the Nyatex adhesive, but from what I've read you may be able to get similar epoxies and add a few thinners and make basically the same product. With epoxy the head prep is the biggest part. Epoxy doesn't like to hold tight to slick greasy surfaces, but it will hold flock fiber tight. I learned this after trying to redo some heads. It took hours at a time to get it off. Attachments:
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Aug 3, 2010 16:03:38 GMT -5
Post by traud on Aug 3, 2010 16:03:38 GMT -5
Ray, what kind of epoxy area you using? I've pretty much used nothing but epoxy and I've never had a problem with getting it off, so I was thinking it may be a different kind, maybe brand names work differently?
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Glue?
Aug 3, 2010 19:07:53 GMT -5
Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Aug 3, 2010 19:07:53 GMT -5
Nyatex solvent based epoxy with a touch of filler to thicken it a tad because it's very thin. The head is cleaned and primed with Pro primer (which is like 80% Toluene and 20% Xylene) with a dash of MEK tossed in for good measure.
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Glue?
Aug 3, 2010 21:02:47 GMT -5
Post by traud on Aug 3, 2010 21:02:47 GMT -5
I think I'm gonna have to order some of that Nyatex. I'm just looking for a really good adhesive that will hold up. Thanks again
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