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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:00:03 GMT -5
Just a bunch of pics of what you need to flock. Stuff many of us take for granted now, but newer flockers may need the information. You save these from the used paper towel. Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:02:35 GMT -5
To make a simple, but very handy rack for drying heads on sticks. Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:03:44 GMT -5
Various sticks to hold different types of heads! Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:05:10 GMT -5
The Flockers best pal! Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:05:45 GMT -5
A must have! Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:06:23 GMT -5
Adhesive Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:07:09 GMT -5
Goes without saying really! Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:09:03 GMT -5
... or some prefer! Attachments:
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Jun 8, 2010 1:21:35 GMT -5
I also would add cotton swabs, nitrile gloves, a mask, eye protection, a hygrometer, a humidifier, an A/C or dehumidifier, hobby paint brushes, paper towels, white vinegar, mixing bowels, measuring spoons, newspaper, and most of all an understanding spouse. The last one being the most important. Oh and a good answer for the question, "What the hell are you doing now?"
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Post by lookforjoe on Mar 9, 2017 21:34:32 GMT -5
I also would add cotton swabs, nitrile gloves, a mask, eye protection, a hygrometer, a humidifier, an A/C or dehumidifier, hobby paint brushes, paper towels, white vinegar, mixing bowels, measuring spoons, newspaper, and most of all an understanding spouse. The last one being the most important. Oh and a good answer for the question, "What the hell are you doing now?"Hello. Great site! I've just invested in some flocking equipment - I bought a hand flocker from a friend in the UK along with a decent flock supply. I didn't realize a custom booth was better - I probably could have built a whole setup for less than I paid for this with the $$hipping from England. I have several questions I don't seem to see answers to: What sort of enclosure makes sense for use with a hand flocker? Also, what sort of brushes are preferred for epoxy application - I assume different sizes for different details (mustache, sideburns, etc.) Can the brushes be cleaned or are they thrown out after each application (hard to see cleaning epoxy off)? What is the vinegar for? EDIT: found your post on epoxy info
Not clear on etching/prepping the heads - no specific product is mentioned in the threads I've looked so far? Commercial stuff used for PVC piping OK? Oatey, etc.? Does all the old epoxy need to be completely scraped off (hard to do on flocked-over-painted head varieties in my experience to date) - I bought 30 minute epoxy (BSI-205, 4.5oz) to start with. Do you dilute it for application? Is dripping or running a issue or concern? Thanks in advance!
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on Apr 28, 2017 3:02:32 GMT -5
Usually clear works best for an enclosure, but I've used anything from cardboard to wood for cabinet/tray style and clear or colored plastics for a handheld unit.
A Walmart pack of art brushes works with the epoxy I use. Before it sets I clean them with either alcohol or vinegar and their good for a few dozen uses until they're trash.
Etching- If the head is vintage and de-flocked it basically has a pretty good etch already one it. If it's a new head- a brush down of the area to be flocked with a PVC cleaner or Nyatex epoxy primer helps the epoxy to bite in. Many epoxies can be thinned with MEK or Toluene, but others are difficult to thin.
The epoxy I use (Nyatex) tends to stay put without dripping, but I have used others that wanted to drip or run and I would have to keep turning the heads to stop this (a pain in the ass).
In the long run for most collectors a nice acrylic flock adhesive would work great. I think too many times we all get hung up on waterproof. Hell, when I used to send heads out to other reflockers waterproof wasn't my concern- It was having a Joe with flock on it again that mattered to me and not one sitting in a box useless. I only add this because some people are doing some great reflocking, but do not wish to spend the nest egg on glue and they feel guilty saying their work isn't waterproof.
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Post by lookforjoe on May 10, 2017 20:50:41 GMT -5
I was planning on ordering the epoxy you specified - from Nyatex. Is that waterproof?
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Post by Ray (Flock Man) on May 20, 2017 16:00:12 GMT -5
Yes most if not all epoxies are water proof. This is why they use it on boats and surf boards etc. Just note many of the other parts of Joe are not waterproof and can rust of degrade.
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